This interview focuses on the grounds and gardens. Includes: first impressions; the College's brief; Jamie Buchanan and the Moller Centre; landscaping at the front of the College; appointment of Consultant Landscape Architect; Gordon Patterson; Master's Lodge Garden; challenges; Albert Richmond; Doug Ashman; John Moore; Mulberry tree; managing the grounds and gardens department; women working in the department; new Masters and changes to the Master's Lodge garden; Sir John and Lady Boyd; Lord Broers; Recording the history of the gardens