Sones asks him primarily about an article he wrote in the Guardian in which he asks Labour MP to move against Jeremy Corbyn, Shuker formed Change UK which Sones described as 'unsuccessful'. Sones does not think Shuker's wish for Labour MPs to move against Corbyn will happen. Sones and Shuker discuss a possible vote of no confidence. Shuker speaks about anti-semitism and Brexit being discussed by Jeremy Corbyn but no substantial action being taken on either issue. Shuker thinks UK politics is spilt four-ways, he believes that any election will result in a coalition. Shuker does not think that the country is in 'peacetime' and so working with former Conservative colleagues is not an issue because of the issues facing the country. Sones and Shuker discuss online abuse legislation and asks about various amendments in Northern Ireland.